Logo was a Go-Go

Markos Moulitsas found a link and is paying attention to the gay-vote.

The study this spring by San Francisco-based Community Marketing Inc. found that an eye-popping 92.5% of gay men reported that they voted in the 2004 presidential race, and almost 84% said they cast ballots in the 2006 midterm election. Among lesbians, the results were almost as impressive; nearly 91% said they voted in 2004; for the midterm, the figure was 78%.

By comparsion, the Washington-based Committee for the Study of the American Electorate put the turnout for all Americans eligible to vote at about 61% in 2004 and roughly 40% in 2006.

Gay people not only vote en-mass, but they hold advertising clout far and above their hetero counter-parts. Check out Advertising Age magazine’s article on corporations producing two television commercials that are identical – except for the sexual orientation material.
And while we’re talking about the Gay Vote, it’s worth noting what “The Gays” are looking at this weekend: The Visible Vote; Logo Television.

The format of the Logo Webpage is pretty…confusing. ButRachel Maddow before I note anything on this debate, there is the matter of dealing with Air America radio-celeb; Rachel Maddow. Maddow’s “Campaign Asylum” found on YouTube does an excellent job of a.) congradulating the candidates for doing the debate b.) noting that it’s pretty ridiculous to include Margaret Carlson as one of the moderators. First, she’s not gay, second she has connections with one of the candidates (whether present or not) and third… She wasn’t that good.

The other three moderators were gay. Luckily for the entire debate. Joe Solmonese, Executive Director of the Human Rights Campaign, Melissa Ethridge and Jonathan Capehart of the Washington Post. Very good! Respected and outstanding GLBT citizens of the community.

Andrew Sullivan at The Daily Dish made an intelligent observation on the Logo debates. Arguably, a majority of the debate focused on gay marriage, Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, and Defense of Marriage, Andrew noted the thought:

My own sense, however, is that we haven’t moved the Democrats much in many years. They need and want gay money, so they will talk to us. But none of the leading candidates supports our civil equality in marriage, the Ground Zero of the movement. And, more frustrating, none will say why.

If you’re for civil unions but not civil marriage, you need an argument. One is simply the semantic one that your commitment to the heterosexual meaning of the word trumps your understanding that gays are also family members and deserve not to be shunted into a “separate-but-equal” institution.

But none of them will admit that.

The other answer is that they do support equality in marriage but fear losing votes if they publicly say so. As president, of course, they have virtually no role in the matter – it’s for the states. But they’re scared of the Rove machine – still. So they can’t say that either. So they all seem illogical.

Well said!

You’d have to go to Logo’s website to see each of the candidates interviews on your own. I emailed the folks at WordPress to ask them why I can’t use the links Logo provided to link the video in my blog here. What I got was from Barry at WordPress who said:

Hi,That is correct — untrusted 3rd party javascript is not allowed for security purposes.

Why thanks Barry (@) wordpress dot com. I’m sure you’re sleeping comfortably knowing none of those big scarey “homo-scripts” from Logo television aren’t going to be terrorzing your computer server farm anytime soon.

Sheeshe. Dude! Lighten up man! It’s Logo Tee-Vee! You think they’re somehow block you and your servers because you’re “untrusted” 3rd party?!

The jerk.

Governor Bill Richardson (D-NM)

Gov Bill RichardsonWhat a train-wreck. I have secretly kept my “Underdog” hopes for Richardson because he has a pedigree that blows way everybody else on the Dem ticket. He’s been a US Senator, US Congressman, an Ambassador and he’s a Governor! But Melissa Ethridge asked him, in relation to his usage of the “maricon” comment on the Don Imus program in 2006, if he saw homosexuality being a choice.

Melissa: “Do you think homosexuality is a choice?”

Richardson: It is a choice. Of course!

Melissa: “Maybe you misunderstand the question. Do you think that I was born this way? <short pause> Or do you think…right around the sixth grade or so I decided to start liking girls?”

Richardson: <looking like he ate the last chocolate chip cookie in a room full of starving orphans> Look. I’m not a scientist. I don’t know all of the science behind all of this. I’m just not a scientist!

Phphp… C’mone!

Joe.My.God‘s comment was brilliant. In relating to Richardson’s blunder on the Logo Presidential, JMG said:

“To gays and lesbians, flubbing the choice-vs.-nature question is like botching the answer to “What’s one plus one?”

Note to [New Mexico Governor] Richardson’s current and former gay staffers and supporters: Do an intervention — and get him an Ambien — before he implodes again.”

Pam, over at Pam’s House Blend caught Richardson on the radio two days after his mega-sized gaffe where he said this:

“I’d flown all night from New Hampshire. I screwed up, I made a mistake. This is an issue you’re born with, it’s a not a choice, it’s not a lifestyle. I didn’t understand the question…there was an implication that politics intervenes with science. And I always love the word “choice”, I am for freedom of choice, I have in my health care plan a choice where everyone can choose their health care plan and I always see it as a golden word. I didn’t think it through what Melissa was asking me.”

Pam has an MP3 of him saying this – click here.

The emphasis is mine (of course). I heard in today’s news that Tommy Thompson (R-WI) has just dropped out of the Republican bid for President. I can only hope that Richardson does the same thing soon.

UPDATE: Queerty has an interview with Governor Richardson shortly after the Logo Debates that’s well worth the read.  I personally think he’s thrown the gay vote.  He’s fallen to the same category as Mike Gravel, Ron Paul and Tom Tancredo.

He’s unelectable.

US Senator John Edwards (D-NC)

John EdwardsEdwards showed his weak under-belly by admitting is complete lack of knowledge of “the Gays”. It’s become apparent that John Edwards sees gay people as he sees black people, brown people or as he sees those who are less fortunate.

In an audience of GLBT people both in the studio as well as in the ethereal airwaves satellite relay dishes everywhere, Senator John Edwards explained that he had listened to US Senator Barak Obama (D-IL) who was on the panel earlier and he agreed. He went on to point out that his religious views disagreed with gay marriage but he agreed with equality for everybody. And so he jumped for the opportunity for a cop-out by promising that since he’s a strong supporter of a separated church and state – he won’t let his religious views interfere with his Presidential veto-pen.

You don’t believe me? Click here and watch this.

Pathetic. You think?

I’d rather vote for his wife Elizabeth for President.

US Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY)

Hillary ClintonI love Hillary. I don’t love another eight four years of Clinton v. GOP wars.

She’s pro gay marriage. She’s against Don’t Ask Don’t Tell (even though she helped draft it up), she’s against DOMA (even though she was involved in drafting it up) and she’s against the Bush Iraq Oil War (even though she voted for it and continues to make up excuses for voting for it).

Whatever she said…

I’m a huge supporter of a presidential/vice-presidential team where the President works to fix the foreign relations debacle in this country and the Vice-President to fix the domestic debacle. So if someone picks Hillary as the Veep – I’m there buddy! 100%. She’d be fantastic on the Domestic stuff.

(Former) US Senator Mike Gravel (D-AK)

Mike GravelSenator Gravel cracks me up. And he is the best candidate on the floor. He understands the American people and he understands the issues that are facing “The Gays”. But I’m not going to vote for him, so let’s move along.

Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-OH)

Dennis Kucinich (D-OH)One of the brightest men on the panel. The man, in my understanding of his politics, completely and totally understands the human condition as well as the gay condition in America. I was stunned by his answers:

On gay marriage…are you for “gay marriage”.

Kucinich: Of course I’m for gay marriage. Gay marriage is nothing other than two adults who are in love with each other. The best quality of the human soul is the ability to love. Nothing more beautiful, nothing more passionate than a human to be able to love another human being.

Well, okay I adlibbed. You really should check out his answers on Logo.

Post Editing Notation: Congressman Kucinich’s office was raided after his appearance on Logo television.

Dennis Kucinich’s presidential campaign office in Cleveland was vandalized early this morning after the congressman appeared with other Democratic candidates on a nationally televised forum on gay rights. Kucinich spokesman Andy Juniewicz said an unknown object was thrown through a plate glass window sometime after 12:30 a.m., when campaign staffers closed down the office. Juniewicz did not have a dollar estimate of the damage, and said he didn’t know whether it was connected with Kucinich’s appearance at the forum sponsored by the gay rights group Human Rights Campaign. “We will leave it to the Cleveland Police Department to investigate and see what they come up with,” Juniewicz said.

Oh thank goodness! The Royal Republicans were right again! There really is no connection between Hate Crimes and homosexuality!!

Senator Barak Obama (D-IL)

Sen Barak Obama

The panelists were cruel to Senator Obama, in my opinion. The jumped in on the idea of comparing Gay/Lesbian rights and issues to those related to African American rights and issues during the civil rights movement. I thought their comparison was racist and completely unwarranted.

But, Obama was stellar! He spoke strongly about how speeches given in African-American church congregations and condemned them for homophobia.

I have to give Andrew Sullivan the last word on this “debate”. He’s right – it wasn’t a “debate”, it was in fact, an “interview”. But Sullivan did not fail to notice the Republicans being strangely silent to ever talk to “the Gays” even when there’s a Log Cabin Republican member standing four feet away from them. Sullivan noted:

The other aspect of the “debate” was the fact that no Republican candidates are prepared to make a similar case to gay voters. Gays apparently don’t exist for the GOP: a constituency they won’t touch, let alone appeal to. That’s bad for gays, forMe Republicans and for the country. But it’s the party Rove and Bush built: a party whose foundations are exclusionary and divisive.

And I would have to agree with him on that. It truly is a shame that the Republicans still can not bring themselves to recognized that gays exist, or that the Log Cabin Republicans exist.

2 Responses

  1. Isn’t Dennis swell?
    Really! Heart of gold.

  2. […] been on the record to publicly say; “I love Hillary. I don’t love another eight four years of Clinton v. GOP wars.” And Pfleger’s comments, and the well fanned flames within the “Liberal” […]

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