King Tim Gets Talked Down: There’s No “Death Panel” In The Bill

Poor King Tim.  He has to come to grips by admitting after two minutes of trying to convince Joe Scarborough that there really are “death penels” in the Health Care Bill, caves and admits that there isn’t.

How embarrassing: Getting “schooled” by another Republican on national television.

From those Satan Worshiping liberals over at Crooks and Liars (with my own Satan Worshiping highlights, of course!):

Scarborough: But you know there are no death panels here though. Counseling is one thing. Having three people lining up saying “granny dies, grandpa lives”, that’s quite another. You can’t get there from here.

Pawlenty: Well what happens Joe, what you call it or label it, but I think the facts are these. When you have a system like the United Kingdom where there are breast cancer…

Scarborough: But we don’t. We don’t Governor with all due respect. This does not give us a system like the United Kingdom. I’m talking specifically about this bill. How does this bill get us to “death panels”? You don’t believe it does do you?

Pawlenty: Joe what if it becomes to expensive and then the trajectory of it is even close to what’s being predicted ten years out that they can no longer afford all that they promised and somebody has to say scale back the care. And the federal government is now empowered to do that. When you look at examples around the world where that takes place there are concerns about care being cut back by a federal government institution and we could have a legitimate debate about whether that’s good or not. I don’t think it is.

Scarborough: Governor, what in this bill though, let’s be specific, what in this bill leads us to that position, gives a bureaucrat that power ten years from now to make that decision. I know we’re going to have to make excruciating decisions on health care. You’ve talked about it before, over the next decade because we’ve run out of money in this country, but what in this bill specifically, what provision in this bill specifically would lead anybody to rationally believe a death panel might emerge in a decade, based on this legislation?
Pawlenty: Joe, there is nothing in the legislation that directly says that, it’s the indirect concerns that I’m trying to articulate that I think are at least worth raising.

Yeah, that’s true, Your Majesty!  It’s those same “indirect concerns” that I have when you’ve cut off medication for the mentally ill in downtown Minneapolis and St Paul that concerns me! For Gods Sakes, I think that’s well worth raising, you single-minded Royal Putz!!  He’ll block the poor and mentally ill from medications, and he’ll block the Federal Health Care bill from reaching the rest of us Minnesotans.  …And yet, he’s “pro-life”.

These Republicans are morons. Period. Their “Fear Card” has expired and all they have left is…

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Sen Coburn Kicks a Desperate Woman to the Ditch: “Go Beg your Neighbors for Help”

Check this out, and watch to see Senator Tom Coburn (R-OK) yank his WWJD bracelet off his wrist…

So, you heard the Senator, didn’t you?!  He promises that his office (The United States Government) will happily help this poor wretch of a woman, but he chastizes the audience and explains that the entire community should chip in and help her.  Quite clearly, he admonishes the woman and the audience that nobody should regard the government as an agent for help…for anything.  (Hint: I’ll assume that includes war, invasions and getting mugged; “The government should never be considered as a help-agent!”)

fruitfly21His advice directed at the rest of the audience is disengenuous by saying that the entire community should help her.

That’s a tragic-logic: “Pay your taxes so that Senator Tom Coburn (R-OK) can continue to receive federally subsidized health care, but the rest of you should pony-up some extra-cash to help out those of us who are the most unfortunate.”

It’s becoming high-time the modern-day Marie Antoinette face the guillotine and we’ll happily enjoy our cake.

By the way!  Before you run-off: Senator Coburn went on Fox Snot the next day with Greta Van Sustren and he explained that he and his staff was indeed – working with the woman and finding resources to offer her some help.   Sarcastically speaking: “It’s obvious – if you’re extra-super pathetic…Well, then of course a Republican will stoop down and help you out.  But the rest of you?!?!? Get back to work!”

Senator Tom Coburn’s follow-up:

Well, sure, we can help her. But remember, the first obligation is for her neighbors and us to help her here in Oklahoma. And we need reforms and we’re going to get reforms, but the answer is not having the government in control of those reforms.

And so she immediately — I invited her up to my office, and my case worker started working with her, and we’ll help her and her husband. But the fact is, is one of the things that makes our country great is that we, as individuals, should be helping everybody around us, rather than transferring that to the responsibility of the government. And the government’s never compassionate.

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Well played Senator!  Making your office a welfare state is exactly what the GOP needs!

Best Video Explaining “Why We Need Health Care Reform Now!”

Found it from some liberal communist over at Minnesota Progressive Project.

Oh Yo-Ho, Yo-Ho, Go Ahead and Die

Pirates Of The Health Care-ibean

h/t C&L

Watching Conservatives Explain “Crap Health Care in America”

Leave it to Dennis Kucinich (D-OH)!

Watch the Right-Winger; David Gratzer (R-Health Care Pirate) pout and throw his pen on the desk and play the silent treatment!

Dennis Kucinich wins, and Health Care Geeks loses worse than Reese Witherspoon’s play Legally Blonde
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Howard Dean Responds To Bush’s Attacks re: Health Care

America’s worst president shows up yesterday and slams Obama about a flurry of stuff.  Why would anybody care what Bush has to say about anything – beyond Bush trying to be a rallying call for the GOP (in the minority) to  stand-up against the Democrats (overwhelming majority)?

It’s nonsense at its finest!

Anyway – Dr. Dean has a reply:

Huckabee Threatens Civilization

Actually, I lied in the title. The real title of today’s Special is:

Huckabee warns gay marriage threatens civilizationSt Huck

Mike Huckabee has already begun to ramp-up the Konservative Kristian Koalition rhetoric with his “Let’s Hate The Gay Families” crap. Now that he’s attracted the attention of the religiously insane, a.k.a. “The Xtians” in his bid for GOP Presidency.

Leave it to the Evangelicals to suck off the scum that settles to the bottom.

Said the Governor:

“You have to have a basic family structure. There’s never been a civilization that has rewritten what marriage and family means and survived.”

Really?! Is that true? Really? Or is that just another religious jihadist tub thumping stupid rhetoric with a penchant for pretending that he’s an “expert” on something while secretly hoping nobody discovers he’s actually a complete buffoon?

…Ooooo!! Here’s a tidbit of “re-writing” the concept of marriage what the word “family” means; Divorce Rate America!! According to them:

According to enrichment journal on the divorce rate in America:
The divorce rate in America for first marriage is 41%
The divorce rate in America for second marriage is 60%
The divorce rate in America for third marriage is 73%

Now there’s some re-writing of the definition of “marriage” and “family values”!! I sure hope our civilization survives with all of that “re-writing” of marriage and families in divorce courts everywhere!

Huckleberry continues nonchalantly:Huckleberry Hound

“So there is a sense in which, you know, it’s one thing to say if people want to live a different way, that’s their business. But when you want to redefine what family means or what marriage means, then that’s an issue that should require some serious and significant debate in the public square.”

So, if you want to commit adultery or have children out of wedlock, or even pay your male prostitute extra so he’ll pick up some really high grade methamphetamine for your next visit, you can do so in private. But… if I want to be able to legally marry my life-partner, that requires a “serious” and “significant” debate in the public square?!

You know… What seriously needs to be discussed in the public square with some very significant debate is: Why did Governor Mike Huckabee encourage an Arkansas parole board to release serial rapist Wayne Dumond? …Even after several of his victims urged him to move on and ignore the predator! Because after if ever there was an attempt to destroy civilization, it’s when crazed maniacal politicians let bat-shit crazy people out of jail who run out and kill other peoples’ mommies after violently raping them.

huckleberry hound 2He babbles on by proving that he’s full of shit…

Huckabee scoffed at the claim that gay couples need legal recognition to visit one another in hospitals and nursing homes, saying that was achievable through power of attorney documents.

Gov. Mike Huckabee lives in a clueless world. Let me tellya…he’s an idiot. No really, he’s nothing but an idiot. Seriously, he’s an idiot. I’m not kidding! He’s a big fat idiot!

If he had a brain, he’d take the time out to read HRC’s 2007 Healthcare Equality Index. The PDF discusses at length the problems and the successes of GLBT couples involved with hospitalization. But he won’t. He’s far too busy stumping for votes for spiritually-dead voters who’ve been brainwashed in thinking that God hates “the Gays”. (If you encounter these kinds of people, please don’t draw any attention to their What Would Jesus Do?” bracelet… It only makes them nervous and feel a tiny pin-prick of hypocrisy.)

While he’s out there babbling his hatred for gays, gay marriage and the mythical destruction of institutions such as marriage and family… Check out Huckleberry in Des Moines on Tuesday in a conversation about the newly released NIE report that was released the day before.

Kuhn: I don’t know to what extent you have been briefed or been able to take a look at the NIE report that came out yesterday …

Huckabee: I’m sorry?

Kuhn: The NIE report, the National Intelligence Estimate on Iran. Have you been briefed or been able to take a look at it —

Huckabee: No.

Kuhn: Have you heard of the finding?

Huckabee: No.

Kuhn then summarized the NIE finding that Iran had stopped work on a clandestine nuclear program four years ago.

SheepleYup! There’s one very proud candidate to represent sheeple of our society. They’ll follow after drug addicts, suck on the teat of Jewish homophobes, they’ll even hand their children over to pompous religious zealots who will teach them to huddle around cardboard cutouts of George W. Bush and pray they’ll be chosen to go to war for him. Huckleberry will gladly hate the gays and remain clueless on the most recent current events.

It appears that he’s a perfect candidate for the religiously insane!

So where’s the threat to the American family? Is the threat coming from a gay couple who lives at the other end of your block? Perhaps the threat is coming from that lesbian couple who came to visit your church last Sunday?! Perhaps the true threat to civilization is a religious idiot fromFruitFly 6 Arkansas who’s hoping to be the next President of the United States and so he can prove to you how much God hates all of us because we’re not “perfect like him”.

I’m just sayin’.